Oh dear GOD, spare us all from the ridiculousness of your followers. And when the ridiculousness of your followers collides with the ridiculousness of modern pop music, it just gets doubly ridiculous!
Case in point, the latest thing to piss off some Muslims, the fact that in Katy Perry's new, pathetically bad, ancient Egyptian themed music video for 'Dark Horse'. It shows a man being turned into sand. For some reason, this ancient Egyptian man is wearing a necklace that says 'Allah' in Arabic, even though Islam wasn't invented until centuries later. But, really, it doesn't matter. It's a music video. It's not meant to be a history lesson.
Here's what has some people pissed off. At 1:15 min into the video, the man (I believe it's "rapper" Juicy J?) wearing the necklace is turned into sand. The necklace, as well, is turned into sand. Now, you can't even notice the fact that he is wearing this particular necklace unless you actually pause the video and look for it at that point. Someone apparently did. And, now people are mad saying that Katy Perry has insulted Islam, interpreting the fact that the man turns into sand as him burning and thus the name of Allah being burned.
Now, there are a number of issues here, as far as I am concerned. First off, people are more upset that a necklace is turned into sand than a man turned into sand. Mind you, he isn't really turned into sand, nor is the necklace, it is merely fancy dancy special effects. So, not to worry, the necklace survives in the end. Hate to spoil that bit of music video wizardry for people. I know people know that, and see it as a symbolic 'insult' to Islam as opposed to believing the necklace was turned into sand, but, quite frankly, it's funny. It's funny how the 'symbolic' destruction of a human gets not concern, but the 'symbolic' destruction of a necklace does, merely because of it's shape.
Okay, fine, you know what, we know that some Muslims, and I stress SOME Muslims, get completely bent out of shape over anything perceived as an 'insult' to their religion, no matter how slight it may be. Most will walk away from this feeling possibly a bit mad. Some on social media, however, are demanding YouTube take down the video, ban it, say they hate that 'bitch' (interesting, seeing as swearing is haram in Islam), saying they will never listen to her again and people should boycott her. Now, fine, if you don't want to listen to her again, that's your choice. But, I think calling for an outright ban of a video for something that cannot even be seen without pausing it, or because the perception some have is that it is an 'insult' to Islam is going a bit too far. And, to me, it's all ridiculous.
I do get very tired of this demanding of respect for religion. I believe I have mentioned it before. Demanding respect for a homophobic, genocidal, ego-maniacal, sexist, arrogant, demanding god is a bit rich. Mind you, it's god. It doesn't exist. But, people believe it not only exists but MUST be respected. Well.....no. I don't agree with that. If something does not exist it isn't worthy of ANYTHING. It doesn't exist. Period. But, if we go for some notion that this god does exist, the idea that we should automatically, without question respect it is....well....ridiculous. Now, the demand is to respect the religion and not insult the god, prophet or followers. Welllllll, wait a minute. This is the same religion that says I am going to burn in a fiery hell for eternity for not believing in it. I'm supposed to respect this belief?? It's the same religion that condemns gays for being, you know, gay. I'm supposed to respect this belief?? No. Sorry. I can't do that. And no one should feel obligated to respect something they don't feel respectful of. Now, that doesn't mean I'm running out and burning Qurans on the corner. It just means that when something like this comes up, I want to scream out BULLSHIT, deal with it, when people get bent out of shape over an image that lasts a millisecond! And, the best place to do that, of course, is on social media, where we all scream out everything we want to scream out anyway.
So, here is the deal. If you are mad that Katy Perry's very bad video for a very bad song has a millisecond where Allah's name get's turned into dust because it is on a man who is turned to dust, who isn't actually turned to dust, nor the name, then, fine. It's your prerogative. But, really? Seriously? Honestly? Give me a break. Is it really worth being that upset about? I got it, your ultra sensitive about your religion because imams and scholars keep DRIVING into people's heads that these things are insulting. But, I keep seeing kids, not very old, saying how Katy Perry has disgraced Islam. Well, what? Is it really THAT big of deal in your early teens? Who is instructing you to see this millisecond of video as so highly offensive that it should be banned? It seems to me that the propaganda and dogma within ultra conservative interpretations of the religion is being blasted into the minds of young kids who just repeat what their imams, parents and scholars (a term I use loosely) as opposed to really feeling the deep insult that they report they feel. But, at the same time, who am I to say who should be insulted by what.
But, frankly, if we are talking about banning videos, oh dear GAWD this is no shortage of Islamic assholes attacking the West, atheists, Christians, Jews, Israel, gays and lesbians, and whatever else they can completely lay hate on, and yet it's this Katy Perry video that people want taken down? Give me a break, people. Spare me. It's too rich, to ridiculous, in my view. You don't have to like the video. I don't like the video or the song. But, it is what it is, and the millions of Katy Perry fans out there love it, so more power to them. And, if your god gets angry about a necklace shaped into it's name being turned to dust in a music video, then that is a scary god that I want nothing to do with! That is not a loving god. That is a vengeful, angry, spiteful, self loving, arrogant god that is spending too much time focused on a millisecond of video and not enough time on saving sick children. Please, keep that god away from me, because frankly, that god is an asshole.
Case in point, the latest thing to piss off some Muslims, the fact that in Katy Perry's new, pathetically bad, ancient Egyptian themed music video for 'Dark Horse'. It shows a man being turned into sand. For some reason, this ancient Egyptian man is wearing a necklace that says 'Allah' in Arabic, even though Islam wasn't invented until centuries later. But, really, it doesn't matter. It's a music video. It's not meant to be a history lesson.
Here's what has some people pissed off. At 1:15 min into the video, the man (I believe it's "rapper" Juicy J?) wearing the necklace is turned into sand. The necklace, as well, is turned into sand. Now, you can't even notice the fact that he is wearing this particular necklace unless you actually pause the video and look for it at that point. Someone apparently did. And, now people are mad saying that Katy Perry has insulted Islam, interpreting the fact that the man turns into sand as him burning and thus the name of Allah being burned.
Now, there are a number of issues here, as far as I am concerned. First off, people are more upset that a necklace is turned into sand than a man turned into sand. Mind you, he isn't really turned into sand, nor is the necklace, it is merely fancy dancy special effects. So, not to worry, the necklace survives in the end. Hate to spoil that bit of music video wizardry for people. I know people know that, and see it as a symbolic 'insult' to Islam as opposed to believing the necklace was turned into sand, but, quite frankly, it's funny. It's funny how the 'symbolic' destruction of a human gets not concern, but the 'symbolic' destruction of a necklace does, merely because of it's shape.
Okay, fine, you know what, we know that some Muslims, and I stress SOME Muslims, get completely bent out of shape over anything perceived as an 'insult' to their religion, no matter how slight it may be. Most will walk away from this feeling possibly a bit mad. Some on social media, however, are demanding YouTube take down the video, ban it, say they hate that 'bitch' (interesting, seeing as swearing is haram in Islam), saying they will never listen to her again and people should boycott her. Now, fine, if you don't want to listen to her again, that's your choice. But, I think calling for an outright ban of a video for something that cannot even be seen without pausing it, or because the perception some have is that it is an 'insult' to Islam is going a bit too far. And, to me, it's all ridiculous.
I do get very tired of this demanding of respect for religion. I believe I have mentioned it before. Demanding respect for a homophobic, genocidal, ego-maniacal, sexist, arrogant, demanding god is a bit rich. Mind you, it's god. It doesn't exist. But, people believe it not only exists but MUST be respected. Well.....no. I don't agree with that. If something does not exist it isn't worthy of ANYTHING. It doesn't exist. Period. But, if we go for some notion that this god does exist, the idea that we should automatically, without question respect it is....well....ridiculous. Now, the demand is to respect the religion and not insult the god, prophet or followers. Welllllll, wait a minute. This is the same religion that says I am going to burn in a fiery hell for eternity for not believing in it. I'm supposed to respect this belief?? It's the same religion that condemns gays for being, you know, gay. I'm supposed to respect this belief?? No. Sorry. I can't do that. And no one should feel obligated to respect something they don't feel respectful of. Now, that doesn't mean I'm running out and burning Qurans on the corner. It just means that when something like this comes up, I want to scream out BULLSHIT, deal with it, when people get bent out of shape over an image that lasts a millisecond! And, the best place to do that, of course, is on social media, where we all scream out everything we want to scream out anyway.
So, here is the deal. If you are mad that Katy Perry's very bad video for a very bad song has a millisecond where Allah's name get's turned into dust because it is on a man who is turned to dust, who isn't actually turned to dust, nor the name, then, fine. It's your prerogative. But, really? Seriously? Honestly? Give me a break. Is it really worth being that upset about? I got it, your ultra sensitive about your religion because imams and scholars keep DRIVING into people's heads that these things are insulting. But, I keep seeing kids, not very old, saying how Katy Perry has disgraced Islam. Well, what? Is it really THAT big of deal in your early teens? Who is instructing you to see this millisecond of video as so highly offensive that it should be banned? It seems to me that the propaganda and dogma within ultra conservative interpretations of the religion is being blasted into the minds of young kids who just repeat what their imams, parents and scholars (a term I use loosely) as opposed to really feeling the deep insult that they report they feel. But, at the same time, who am I to say who should be insulted by what.
But, frankly, if we are talking about banning videos, oh dear GAWD this is no shortage of Islamic assholes attacking the West, atheists, Christians, Jews, Israel, gays and lesbians, and whatever else they can completely lay hate on, and yet it's this Katy Perry video that people want taken down? Give me a break, people. Spare me. It's too rich, to ridiculous, in my view. You don't have to like the video. I don't like the video or the song. But, it is what it is, and the millions of Katy Perry fans out there love it, so more power to them. And, if your god gets angry about a necklace shaped into it's name being turned to dust in a music video, then that is a scary god that I want nothing to do with! That is not a loving god. That is a vengeful, angry, spiteful, self loving, arrogant god that is spending too much time focused on a millisecond of video and not enough time on saving sick children. Please, keep that god away from me, because frankly, that god is an asshole.
It is not a 'symbolic' destruction of a necklace, it is our GOD that is 'Allah'. Just imagine that we burned your 'jesus' necklace. What do u feel? Happy with it? And one more thing, Palestin didn't attack Israel. Israel that attack them, watch the news please. And get a map, is there such country or place is belong to Israel?
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I don't follow Jesus. Not a Christian. Second of all, not even getting into the Israel/Palestine issue because it is a useless dead end street of a discussion.
DeleteWhat the video means is the destruction of GOD which it can't never happen.. because Allah S.W.T. is The CREATOR
DeleteWhat?? That is quite the interesting interpretation of that. Wow. How you took a millisecond where a necklace with the name Allah on it turning to dust means that Katy Perry is out to destroy god (who doesn't exist) is remarkably odd.
DeleteThere's no point arguing this. Some people just don't accept it. Or perhaps they don't want to accept the rational explanation of things. I second you, every phrase what you've written!
DeleteI call that white supremacy video. Subliminal all the the way.attacking Islam,black man and Chinese man, but the white man did not get sap. The desvours devil children. The real people know what time is.
Delete@King: What the....??
DeleteHow can you, a non-religious person, make a comment about something that really only a religious person (with a wide history of religious persecution) can understand? If you knew anything about and/or cared for the concept of respect, which you claim not to, then you would understand this. Not to mention your comparisons are absolutely illogical, and your rude argument is completely riddled with fallacy.
ReplyDeleteI think I explained quite nicely how I feel on the issue in the blog post. You don't have to agree. Not asking you too. Many people don't. That's fine.
DeleteFortunately, there are many Muslims who don't feel offended. Or, if they do, they aren't out to ban the video and are able to handle this in a mature and rational fashion. Unfortunately, there are those that get a bit too worked up over the slightest thing and will continue to do so over and over. In this post, I stated that if someone wants to be offended, it's up to them. I can't decide what offends people. BUT, do I think the offense is blown out of proportion? Yes, I do. Is it because I am not Muslim? I like to think that even if I was a Muslim, I would take this situation with a grain of salt, understanding that god is bigger than getting offended over such a tiny, tiny thing.
ReplyDeleteAgain, swearing is haram. All of these people I see swearing about Katy Perry's video make me laugh! Your god orders you NOT to swear, yet you blatanly ignore that statement, essentially spitting in your god's face. You've completely gone against his wishes and commands, and in doing so have completely disrespected him. So, what is the difference exactly?
ReplyDeleteAnd, please, spare me on the Palestine issue. Not getting into that one.
ReplyDeleteSwearing is haram. Your god is against it. Yet you do it? Is this not disrespectful to your god?
ReplyDeleteSo many whingers and sulks in this world. I see crosses getting destroyed all the time. Pastors getting shot in moves etc. It's silly how a 2 sec scene can angered so many people.
ReplyDeleteHey :)
ReplyDeleteAssalam wa alaikum
What makes you think that there isn't any creator?
P.S This isn't any argument just a discussion :)
I don't wish to get into this discussion at this time....:) Generally speaking, it's a dead end battle to begin with...:)
DeleteWell lets see if katy parry starts beheading young child and eats them.
ReplyDeleteI bet these so called "champion of free speech" will go bonkers saying its promoting violence and child violence.
But if u are still supporting such act then u are a sick person.
we muslims respect and care the symbol as much as we care the image of our close family members, our child,our siblings,our spouse and such anybody would be angry if some desperate singer trying to gain more views by depicting "controversial" scene.
Such insta-publicity usually done by artists that lacks creativity. Jumble all controversial symbols into one and starts raking up the cheap publicity in quantity.
Well thats what u get from a typical mainstream artists.
beheading a child and featuring a necklace with the word GOD on it in a music video are two entirely different things dude...
DeleteI'm not saying you can't be angry or offended. Feel free to be. In my view, from my perspective, I shake my head over it. I explained my issues with the entire thing in the post. You have every right to feel angry. I just feel that some of this has gotten out of hand and the demanding of respect for religion and the banning of the video is a tad over the top. But, that is my view. You are free to have your own view.
DeleteI would rephrase your words "was wearing a necklace that said GOD in Arabic".
ReplyDeleteNo dear, Its the name of GOD for Muslims all around the world - "Allah" in arabic.
In other religions, people are okay if a movie or figures represent their GODS/Prophets.
In Islam, its not allowed and such representations are acts of extreme sin.
I'm sure however, katy or costume designer may not have idea of it. Hence, If sth hurts a race or ethnicity, its decency to have at least that part of the scene removed.
Esp since its creating different races/religions to fight,argue, swear and what not.
Many muslims who dont feel offended because they are not practising their own religion. btw, god do exist, if not who created the world? sun and the moon? who created the animals? the chicken and eggs? have you thought about it? if you translate allah to english it meant GOD. its not just a necklace, why allah? if it were Jesus name, will christians be offended? even muslim will feel offended. He created the world and things around you yet you think he dont exist? May God show you the way. Have a great day :)
ReplyDeleteIf muslims all over are being offended, why not respect that?
ReplyDeleteI mean, freedom of speech is one thing, but sth which is creating different religions/ different beliefs to fight over it, swearing of all religions and youtube get up into other hating muslims and muslims hating katy, raise sensitive world issues on israel-palestine and make you say what islam does wrong to justify katy's video - enough a reason to rub that scene off dont you think?
i would have reacted the same if some arabic weirdo "symbolically" burned a pope in his music video or some english racist "symbolically" burn a guy because he's black.
There may be muslims doing wrong over other issues/write-up against freedom etc but America believes in freedom of speech as well has provides equal rights to everyone's sentiments. It is with that decency and their judgment to differentiate right-wrong and not hurt other race, they might as well remove that bit of the scene.
I agree with you that its hardly noticeable. It may be trivial if no one noticed, but since some did, many now know and fighting like hell and you wrote a whole article about it, its surely an issue which needs to be taken care of.
Peace! :)
You're missing the point here. Muslims are starting up a petitions trying to force this clip to be taken down just because of their own beliefs. And death threats and sexists remarks are all being encouraged and used loosely. Do you think it's cool for people to say " KILL THAT KATY PERRY BITCH WHORE, I WILL SHOOT HER" " SHE'S A FUCKING SLUT, HOW DARE SHE INSULT ISLAM" etc Freedom of speech is one thing but death threats is another. Some of these comments are made by adults, they should take responsibilities of their own emotions. If they have a problem with a stupid clip they should just not watch it. Petitions over this petty crap is appalling. Seriously those people should complain about things that actually matters.
DeleteI'm not saying that people don't have the right to be offended. They do. It's up to them. From my perspective, the issue has gotten a bit out of control with a petition now going around to have the video banned, meanwhile there are no shortage of videos by hateful Islamic preachers that no one talks about. So, there is hypocrisy there. Keep in mind, this is just my view. Those who are going to petition are still going to petition no matter what I say. To me, it's gotten a bit ridiculous. That's all I can speak for is me from my perspective.
DeleteGreat blog post.i understand people can get offended at the slightest things but honestly if we as a non muslim general whole got offended about things such as 9/11 and 7/7 that were apparently done in the name of allah we would be living within a civil war in britain. On the scale of things it really is not a big deal considering what actual horrendous things are going on in the world today.can everyone not just chill out a little and stop jumping on every silly little thing and respect different peoples beliefs and views.no one died,no one was hurt,if you dont like it dont watch it!
ReplyDeleteSeriously? That scene lasted for less than a second and come on, those who commented that Katy insulted Allah with her latest MTV only knew about it from social media. I bet no one in the right mind would have notice that 1 millisecond scene..
ReplyDeleteWhen the times come, you guys will ask for forgiveness and chance to live once more.
ReplyDeleteRelax. there is no god. We have one life to live. Enjoy it...:)
Deleteyour blog is rubbish btw and your view on the music video is absolutely abysmal.
ReplyDeleteThanks! At least you read it You don't have to like it.
DeleteMuslims shouldn't even be watching the video as listening to music is haram - false words and all that. Spend your time helping those in need and leave the attention-seeking Perry to her own business.
ReplyDeleteThe black/Moorish man is god. Black Dust Melanin come on it's 2014 ! Dark Horse!
ReplyDeleteThe Author has no idea what he's talking about... You really need to get out more & meet people, learn about the values of different people and cultures you ignoramus.
ReplyDeleteKaty herself probably has no idea this necklace was even in the video but she should speak out about it otherwise she'll end up becoming a hate figure.
All the burning or destruction of the name of Allaah will not diminish His sovereignty in the slightest however there was just no need for this whole saga if the costume or props people did their research... Nevertheless, Whoever is responsible for including it in the video will be answerable for their actions in the next life if not in this.
Well, I consider myself well traveled and lived in the "Muslim" world for 5 years, so I don't know how much more you want me to get out. Anyway, exactly, if, in the end, there is some great creator or god that she has pissed off with this action, he/she/it/they will deal with her in the end. So, leave it at that. no? It's up to god or gods or whatever to do the judging, so let god or gods do their job.
DeleteMaybe come "judgement" day or whatever, Katy Perry will show up at the Pearly Gates, and St. Peter will be standing there and say, "OMG! It's Katy Fucking Perry! Oh, sister, you kill it with your beats! I have been such a long time fan. Me and god totally dig your work. Will you sign this scroll for me?"
DeleteHa! I'm still laughing at the St. Peter comment... great stuff
DeleteHello Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteHave you every touched or spoken to God, Allah or a ghost? If you have, you can upload the video of it, or even better I can Skype him/her/it, and we're off to a good start of a regular HUMAN argument... Anyway, nice entry! Sorry that usually, religious-related arguments end up in some crazed ghost-believing fanatic rambling about the crazy idea of a spirit we're all suposed to believe crated everything, and whose rules we must follow (EVEN if we don't know him/her/it). Common sense, you know...
The point you are missing is today it's the necklace, what about tomorrow? So muslims are only trying to prevent things from getting any worse. The only person over reacting is you. By the way you can make your self feel better for a while for writing this types of articles but you will soon come to know that denying god's existance won't stop you from meeting him.
ReplyDeleteMmmmmm.....nope. Not going to happen. Thanks for trying though. If you think this millisecond of a video that no one can notice is going to start some kind of world wide genocide of Muslims, or whatever you are implying....no. No, no, no. It merely is what it is. I don't think KP put in some grand subliminal message about how Islam should be destroyed or something like that. You have the right to be offended. I am not taking that away from you. Feel offended all you want.
Deletehow incoherent and amateur of you? Let's say 80% people didn't feel offended from 1 billion muslims but what about the 20%? shouldn't we be concerned or should we just avoid them as if these people don't have moral values? this is not about opinions and freedom of speech this is about respect and love not sarcasm and hypocrisy like your expressing here. it's important to understand what's objectively wrong here not subjectively
ReplyDelete'isn't your god against swearing?' 'aren't you meant to respect your god?' 'your a Muslims so u shouldn't be listening to music' oh please spare me, since when was every single Muslim a perfect one. Since when was every single Hindu a perfect one and since when was every single catholic a perfect one? So just bare that in mind the next time u decide to question why a Muslim is swearing, dancing etc. It's pathetic and if you would just use your brain a little u would not ask daft questions like that simply becaise of the answer - there are individual differences within all religions not everyone is the same -.- jeez.
ReplyDeleteThe point is, unless you are obeying your god and doing what he/she/it/they command you to do, you are disrespecting the god anyway. So, getting mad at someone else when you aren't even following the instructions of the god is ridiculous. THAT is the point. Of course, NO one is perfect. Nothing is perfect. That is the point! If someone is swearing when their religion forbids it, aren't they being completely disrespectful to the religion? And given that, isn't it rather rich to get mad at someone else disrespecting the religion when you are doing it to? I don't expect anyone from any religion to do anything. Do what you want. The point is, don't be a hypocrite about it. If you are doing wrong, focus on what you are doing wrong and don't worry what other people are doing or not doing that will get them to hell or heaven or paradise or wherever it is you think they will go.
DeleteI feal offended ok I Will go burn you cross necklaces and see if your ok with it. Ignorent
ReplyDeleteI'm a Christian, and I wear a crusifix. But let's be adult about this. Even if it were not in this context and someone was burning crusifixes, or images of Jesus in the street it would not bother me. Because it does not effect my faith nor my life. When people react over things like this and blow it up into a big deal, its almost like they thrive on conflict.
DeleteI am not Christian, and don't wear a crucifix.
DeleteI'm the second anonymous guy. My comment was aimed at the first guy.
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DeleteYa, mine was too...:)
DeleteThis is a very immature post from a "stay-home dad". Does this mean human being should not respect each other? Just hate on each other? Say whatever you want to each other and act however you like to each other? saying hurtful thing to each other, and EXPECT Peace?????????????? Please "Stay-home Dad". Think before you preach!!
ReplyDelete"Respect" does not mean you have to approve of something but it means to leave it alone if you do not agree and be kind to one another despite of differences. People have different beliefs, opinion, cultures, religion, even sex life. Just leave them alone as long as they are positive and they don't bother you. However, if you use their symbols, mock the symbols they valued the most in their belief, what do you expect them to react?????? If someone burned your parent's photo in front of you, how would you react??? are you still going to talk about respect?????
Religions are sets of ideas. They are not people. Not all ideas are deserving of respect.
DeleteI'm Christian. But come on. If a crucifix were burned instead, I'd feel nothing over it. It's only an object.
ReplyDeleteUmmmmm....you know what? There are no shortage of ideas within Islam that I find completely offensive. Sooooo, what about me? Do I not have a right to not feel offended then? In that case, should I demand that Islam be BANNED because aspects of it offend me? What about my rights? What about offense that I feel?
ReplyDeletePlease enlighten us, what did she mean by the destruction of the word Allah? Please no guesse work, you need to go and get the information straight from the dark horses mouth. Then you can come back to us and tell us. At the moment all you are doing is defending something you don't understand.
ReplyDeleteDear Max,
ReplyDeletedo u feel love but can u see love? can u show what is love? can i skype with love? love exist.. how did we know love exist.. because u feel it even u can see it.. its like a proof.. allah.. islam.. alquran.. read alquran, and understand it.. u will blv allah exist.. why? alquran cames thousand years a go, before this technology.. but in alquran if u make research.. they already told about finger print system, establishment of israel, genetic engineering, zoo, books publish and spread,air traffic system, aids and many more.. who wrote it? if u really brave.. read it.. and tell me who wrote it.. explain to me how alquran from thousand years ago know about what happen today.. what happen in future..
you might not see Him, but He knows what you do, did or will do. its useless to have a debate with you, so all I can do is pray for you to be given Hidayah from Him. With His will.
ReplyDeleteSo, you sound insane. But it sounds like you're yet another poor sob on the hate wagon.
ReplyDeleteIt isn't hard to believe that it meant absolutely nothing. The video was filled with vague references to different cultures, and I seriously doubt Katy Perry has any sort of knowledge outside putting on her makeup or heating up microwavable dinners. A few people were turned to sand. And she ate a necklace. In what way can you pick out a hate crime?
People are using religious views to start conflict more than anything. If you were really the religious type, yoyd understand that this isn't worth sacrificing your own peace over, and that all things will be sorted in the end.
This being directed toward several people here screaming about being offended.
DeleteIf Allah/God did exist, wouldn't they have stopped the whole thing from happening in the beginning? You know...being almighty and whatnot.
ReplyDeleteOr was this all part of the plan?
I am a practising Muslim and oppose extreme views but this really is an insult to Islam and I am offended. Lets put it this way, "why did a necklace with Allah need to be in the video? what is the significance of it?" To insult Muslims. If the necklace wasn't there it wouldn't have made a difference to the video
ReplyDeleteBut it is there, for whatever reason. Really, if you break it down, what is the whole point of anything being in the video? I'm sure every single person on the planet can find something in this video to feel offended by. Why not just not make music videos to completely avoid offending anyone. Or, maybe we should stop making music. Or stop doing everything so as to not offend anyone in the slightest possible way. I'm not saying you don't have the right to be offended. You do. And these views are clearly my own. You don't have to agree. You don't have to like them. You can hate them, and hate me for writing them for that matter. These are just my views...:)
DeleteThat is true, it's unneeded, but at the same time it doesn't mean anything. There is no "symbol" it's just a dumb video with a necklace in the background. Now, if the whole video had the word "Allah" in flames then I'd understand the attack. this wasn't an attack, just a dumb pop video
ReplyDeleteQuit taking things so personal
and by the way, I checked the clip and there is NOOO other offended thing in that video clip except that the necklace with the symbol of Islam getting destroyed, and maybe you have to do more research about double entendre in English words.. Google it!! maybe you get little bit smarter before you writing a column about a subject...
ReplyDeleteFunny i watched the same video and I saw nothing offensive except for the song.
DeleteI thing your not so smart: this is from Internet DISCRIMINATION:
ReplyDeletedis·crim·i·na·tion
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1.
an act or instance of discriminating, or of making a distinction.
2.
treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
3.
the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.
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In no way is anyone being discriminated against. No rights were taken away or even infringed upon. No discrimination took place at all. None.
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ReplyDeleteI'm not here to defend the video, I too think it's a terrible video/song. I'm hear debating on the Allah burning (as part of the guy who is also turned into sand) as not being the focus. You're making it the focus because it's an "attack" when clearly it's not. It's just a dumb move.
ReplyDeleteno its fine and everyone have his own opinion that's o.k. but we have to think twice before you do something because you have to understand that people can be hurt by this action by miss perry, we all have to live together, gay's with non gays, smokers with non smokers and believers and non believers etc etc...
DeleteAnon 2, everything has the potential to hurt someone. Do we just stop communicating in all forms to prevent offending or hurting anyone?
Deletelook Manic, forms are good and fun to react on, so people can and try to understand each other better.. this world is really changed a lot and people are more and more fragile then ever before..(feelings) we can try to not offend people in a proper way by discussions but not with pointing fingers.. really, that u don't believe that is all good but you have to respect the people that do believe in a higher power, it doesn't matter if its in Judaism, Jesus Christ, Islam, God, Hindu or Buddhism etc..... and even you don't like Islam you still write Allah with a capital A, so i do respect you... and i don't care if you are a butt pirate or a muffin diver...( that was a joke, I try to brake the ice) we are all people with different needs and characters so we have to try to compromise with each other and live together...hate is not good but offending a religion or that people are gay is also not good..
DeleteWhat about those that don't believe in anything who want to enjoy a music video. The problem is just because one group is offended doesn't mean the video should be taken down.
Deleteyour absolutely right that is the fault of the music industry and the producers of that clip, they hat to know better that Muslims would see that... there not dumb they knew what they were doing (Music Industry)....
DeleteThe point is, I do find a number of aspects of Islam offensive. The Quran spends most of it's time telling me how much of an idiot I am for not believing in Allah, while saying I'm going to burn in a fiery hell. THAT is offensive, my friend. So, demanding respect for a religion that shows utter contempt for me is pretty rich. A religion is a set of ideas, not an entity. WIthin the religion, quite frankly, there are some bad ideas, from my perspective. So, no, I don't have respect for institutionalized homophobia, sexism, elitism, or fascism. So, no, don't tell me about respecting anything. I don't hate anyone based solely on the fact that they follow a religion. BUT, it's perfectly okay to hate a religion or a set of ideas.
DeleteWhat I understand is that you can read Arabic or not??? you are telling that Al Qur'an is telling you that you will burn in hell if you not belief in Allah, to understand Al Qur'an you have to speak and understand the Arabic language very well and you can not do that by traveling or living for 5 years only in Muslim country's... you can not translate Al-Qur'an in a other language because some words in Arabic have not the same meanings if translated, you say you have much knowledge about Islam but i think you don't have: sorry to say that.. and I quote you: it's perfectly okay to hate a religion or a set of ideas... did you get bullied a lot on school or on the streets???... to me you sound like a very hate full person, that don't like much.. and i think also if you travel sooooo much to other country's how can it be that you don't understand other people and culture's???.. and for your education I google this for you, there are 5 difference of Islam, they are not tribes but practice in a other way in Islam : 1. Sunni. 2. Shi'a. 3. Wahhabi. 4. Salafi. 5. Bohras.... don't confuse them with one.. do your research good and don't blame a view Imams for what they are saying because there are many Muslim people that don't think the same like them (Imams) and belief in Allah and read Al-Qur'an everyday.... O ya, to disagree or hate are not the same buddy...
DeleteP.S. you have to look in the mirror Manic because first you say you don't feel offended by Al-Qur'an then you feel offended by some things because in your interpretation, again I quote you: The Quran spends most of it's time telling me how much of an idiot I am for not believing in Allah, while saying I'm going to burn in a fiery hell. THAT is offensive, my friend. If you don't believe, then that is the point it cloud not hurt you!!! so why you feel offended...??? really, you speak double tongues... and your arguments are weak plus not adjudicated.... I know Al-Qur'an and it does not say you will burn in hell but you would not be aloud in Heaven, that is a BIG different meaning buddy so don't give your own spin to it like those Imams do.....!!!!
DeleteNo. It says I'm going to hell....over and over and over and over. It spends much of it's time devoted to how much of a fool I am for not believing and how I as a non believer am on the wrong path and ignoring Allah can lead to horrible, horrible things for me. Besides, as an advocate for LGBT rights and someone who looks at some practises within Islam and don't agree with them and speak against them, then I am assured a ticket to hell, and the Quran makes this perfectly clear....over, and over and over and over and over. Look, I am not saying you can't be offended by the video. My point is, we all get offended by things. The question is, if we are going to ban this video based on YOUR offenses, then should we ban Islam based on what offends me? I mean there are NO shortage of videos by asshole imams and "scholars" and other religious jerks who say horrible hateful things that no one seems to be starting a petition over. Yet, a video with a millisecond of a symbol being turned to ash on a HUMAN that turns to ash has people screaming? Come on. Let's be realistic. It is what it is...simply an object. Your god speaks against worshiping objects or putting them on the same level as Allah. It is just a material item. This distraction and the anger towards it shows you aren't even listening to your own god. If you don't listen to your own god, why on earth should we take you seriously? Focus on how YOU serve your god. If you find this video offensive, hey, that's your right. It's up to you. No one can tell you what you should or should not be offended by. But, from MY perspective, which is what I wrote this piece from, I see some, SOME, of the backlash against this to be comical and ridiculous. But, that is my take on it from my perspective.
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ReplyDeletealso because you have a thick skin doesn't mean that other people have it 2..... lucky we are not all the same because then it would be very boring....
ReplyDeleteYou do target things that are precious to me. LGBT rights, gender equality, science and the core idea of evolution, democracy, atheism....
DeleteThe Quran and the religion and too many of it's scholars, imams, etc, make no bones how about how evil I am for my beliefs and how wrong I am.
Heck, Islam even does a good job of insulting every other religion out there with it's assertation that Islam is the only true religion, that the deeply held believes of a few billion Christians, the fact that Jesus is the son of god is rubbish and that Christians lost their way....guess what....highly offensive and attacking the beliefs of others.
You guys realize that if we applied what you're saying, then gays, or Christians (or anyone really) wouldn't be able to be hurt, or killed in movies. There's tolerance, then there's this. Let's not allow the world to be consumed with these petty things or pretty soon we'll all be walking on egg shells.
ReplyDeleterun forest run ~(',')~
ReplyDeleteWhy is the author mixing her own feelings about Islamic doctrine (which is the same as Jewish and Christian doctrine) while the topic is about Katy Perry deliberately picks the Arab word for God to be "symbolically" turned into ash/sand? From al the words in the Arab language, miss perry picks the one word that is respected among believers. So because of disapproval of a faith that you don't like because you think you're going to hell (How is that Islams fault if you're the one believing in that), you approve of depicting Holy words in a video only to destroy it? No Muslim has made a music video about you or an LGBT person being burned in hell as part of "ART". So stop your bulshitting, if you target peoples beliefs, then you're just clearly in the wrong.
ReplyDeleteSpot on!!! from all of the believes and Arabic words the producers picked that Holy word, the producers did it on purpose to start something, this was not art... this was pure to insult the Islamic world...
DeleteAgain, thanks for making a point here. Swearing is haram. Your god commands you not to swear. But you did. Therefore you aren't even following the commands of your god which means you are disrespecting it/he/she or whatever. So, how can you get mad at anyone else for "disrespecting" your god? And, why exactly should we show respect to a homophobic, egomaniacal, sexist, angry, vengeful, genocidal, arrogant, demanding, petty god? The Quran targets my beliefs quite clearly. Shall we ban the Quran? It contradicts many of my deep held beliefs. If we are banning things, how about we start there? And, of course, other religions have no shortage of offensive ideas within them. I am not defending those over Islam. This just happens to be a case where Islam is at the forefront so we are talking about Islam. It's just funny how we are supposed to respect religion, when religious teachings don't seem to respect anyone but those that follow the religion. You yourself are basically saying I am going to hell for not following the demands of your god, and it is my fault for doing so. That is pretty offensive, no? So, I propose we ban all religions that say that others who don't follow the religion will go to hell. Interestingly enough, between all these religions, everyone on the planet is going to hell...:) Hmmmm. Interesting. All this loving, peaceful religious stuff is making sure that we all burn in a fiery afterworld for eternity! Ahhhh, the beauty of religion.
DeleteIt's shows me now what kind of person you are because you don't read or understand or study the Arabic language, that shows me that you totally didn't travel in the Arabic world for 5 years (don't lie buddy, it makes you look not educated and cheap as a writer) , otherwise you wouldn't say again and again the same weak argument about burning in Hell because you try to put does view Imams (maybe 5 or 6) with the other thousands of other Imams that don't preach the same way... that tells a story about you! you put all Muslims in one pocket so that makes you a prejudices and a racist.. I thank you for showing your true inside....
DeleteP.s. I will go to Uganda for vacation ;-P
Deletemany people know that your LGBT movement is supported by FREEMASON and we know what FREEMASON is all about.....
DeleteOkay. You don't have to believe me. I know where I have been and what I have done. That's all that matters. Anyway, whatever. You are willfully ignorant of your own holy book. Whatever. Sorry.
DeleteFreemasons? Lol. Um. Okay.
DeleteGoogle it buddy, and research like A REAL writer....
DeleteRight. Gotcha.
DeleteEverything pisses off Muslims! They're the most insecure religion on planet earth.But I admit the director should have given more thought especially being that the theme of the video was supposed to mimic ancient Egypt prior to Islamic religious dominance over that region! Which in turn does give validity to their grievance!
ReplyDeleteSeeing as it is only in the video for less than a second, I'm sure it wasn't a priority anyway...:)
DeleteAnyway, all commentors, I appreciate your comments. Just an update. Apparently, Katy Perry has officially had the offensive millisecond of video removed. Now, the video is no longer offensive to Muslims...just people who like good music and well done music videos. Is everyone now happy? Can we all carry on until the next major offensive thing that comes along? Maybe tomorrow some new cartoon will pop up! Yay!
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