Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Let's Talk About Kim Evans of Riverview, New Brunswick, Shall We?

Oh Kim Evans of Petals and Promises in Riverview, New Brunswick, what the hell were you thinking??

Have you heard about this lovely story? (You can read about it here if you wish) It seems that Kim Evans, a self proclaimed "born-again Christian" (I still can't for the life of me figure out what that is, but, whatever) decided that she did not wish to sell flowers to a same sex couple who were getting married. Well, first she said that she would provide flowers for the couple's wedding, and then she found out that the couple in question shared the same kind of genitalia and she sent them an email saying (I love this) "I am choosing to decline your business. As a born-again Christian, I must respect my conscience before God and have no part in this matter,"

Oh, isn't that lovely. That's like sending an email to a mixed-race couple saying "I am choosing to decline your business. As I have recently joined the Klan, I must respect my Grand Wizard and have no part in this matter." Yikes. Come on lady! You not only refused their business because they are a same-sex couple, but you did so in a terribly rude and horrible way. That doesn't help your case at all, not that you had one in the first place.What other acts of bigotry does your "born-again Christian" status allow you to indulge in? Who else are you refusing business to? Are you getting a detailed CV from each potential client now to make sure you approve of everything they have ever said, done or will do to make sure it fits into your new Christian lifestyle?

I have no patience for this kind of stuff. There is no way that this kind of discrimination should be taking place, in CANADA, in 2011. I feel personally insulted by what she has done, as a human being and a fellow Canadian. This is not what Canada is about. This is not what being a human is about. Treat people with some decency, would you Kim Evans of Petals and Promises in Riverview, New Brunswick, Canada! And get a better name for your business, would ya! Petals and Promises??? What the hell kind of name is THAT! Bahhhhh. See how angry I am? It's the Promises part of the name that erks me. You PROMISED them flowers. You gave them homophobia. What a rotten deal.




52 comments:

  1. I agree Tesekkurler!

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  2. love it!
    "It's the Promises part of the name that erks me. You PROMISED them flowers. You gave them homophobia. What a rotten deal. "
    That is just great.
    As a fellow NB'er I am ashamed of their behavior. The only positive thing is that everytime something like this happens is that it galvanizes people into standing up and making an outcry.

    She will be out of business very soon

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  3. Love your rant, especially the part about the Klan, that made me LOL! Agree with you! I live 10 minutes away from this flower shop and I am, at this moment, racking my creative mind for a way to make this stupid woman see the error of her ways.

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  4. I completely support Petals and Promises. I am proud of Kim for standing up for what she believes in, for being a Christians with balls. Funny how if it was the other way around - gay flowerist declines a Christian couples business. - We'd hear nothing about that! There is a difference between not approving of a person's lifestyle/choices and hating the person. Which I think is getting confused here. I will certainly be purchasing floral arrangements for my wedding from Petals and Promises!

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  5. Being a "born again christian" myself, I FULLY support her decision. Not many of us would have had the courage to step up to the plate the way she did. Many people quote the love of God, and the love of Jesus, and they all find those text relevant to life. But if you go to Romans chapter 1, and the first few chapters of Corinthians, where it condemns sinners, all of a sudden, it doesn't apply. As for myself, I dealt faithfully with another florist, but I will take my business to Kim....I support Christians.

    And one more thing, funny how we are the ones accuse of being intolerant, and we are quiet, when homosexuals are refused, they go to the media...that really shows who the intolerant people are.....

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    1. you can't be serious? get educated you hypocrite

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  6. I fully support Kim as well.

    If you want to talk about people being persecuted, maybe you could look in the mirror and see how you are talking about a Christian who is trying to uphold the truth in this age of lies!

    I love what Kim did. I do not believe it is wrong to be homosexual, but acting on homosexual ideas is absolutely wrong. Look up the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible!

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    1. get a life and read your bible hipocrite

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  7. Oh you idiot born again Christian woman! Practice what you preach! Does your Bible say you can judge people? Cause the bible says God is the only one who judges. Support whomever you wish. And a gay couple who owns a flower shop would not be so stupid as to turn any business away! I can't believe this is happening in this day and age. I don't wish any harm or hardship on this woman. My only wish for her Is to learn acceptance and compassion for all people! She obviously hasn't learned that in church!

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  8. Great post. Can't believe that there are still folks like this that aren't embarrassed to say these things out loud. I am sure that this woman's business will go nowhere but down after this, and for that, I am happy. I am also sure that the dummies that are supporting here are (1) the type of people that use the n-word and (2) irrelevant. The times have changed folks....sexual orientation is no longer a big deal and you're only showing your redneck idiocy by acting like it is.

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  9. For all those "christian folk" preaching the bible, remember what you are reading ... the bible also said that women should obey their husbands without question - take one look at the face of an abused woman whose husband has almost beaten her to death and tell her to obey him. Judgement, hypocritical, holier-than-thou ... I could go on and on but I believe you christian chicks probably know more sins off by heart than I do. I believe in god, I do not believe in the perversion that is religion and we have laws now that protect EVERYONE from discrimination regardless of gender, race AND sexual orientation. If you will not provide your services to everyone equally, then close your shop doors because you have given up the PRIVILEDGE of owning a legitimate business. One last thought: Kim Evans - what would you do if your husband told you to sell those flowers to the same sex couple? your stuck between a rock and a bible place now eh?

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  10. I am thinking this lady will not have a business for much longer although there are other crazy "born again xtians" who might just beat a path to her door for their weddings.

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  11. For the writer who quoted the Bible about woman obeying their husbands... read on an it says that men should LOVE their wife as Christ loves the Church with the example of laying down His life for her. Don't take things out of context like an idiot.

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  12. Well done Kim. Thank you for standing up for faith and what you believe in. She simply declined with an explanation. Maybe if she just declined with no explanation people would leave her alone. It seems you don't need to explain why a man lusts for another man or a woman for a woman so why should she need to explain. Maybe it's all good, right?

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    1. you are a sorry excuse for a human being. And I'm embarrased to live in a town with such hypocritical red necks like you

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  13. Petals and Promises has denied basic democratic rights to this couple; this is discrimination. You have judged the couple. Shame on you. You can not deny service to someone based on their sexual orientation. Let's rewind and make Blacks sit at the back of the bus; or refuse women the right to vote or own property. I will go out of my way to tell eveyone I know not to patron your establishment. You are a bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion. "Jesus loves all the children and he said that you and I should do the same." Well, I guess the Christians can get back to abusing children and beating first nations people. Shame. Shame. Shame.

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  14. Just curious here.....
    As the bible clearly states that "a woman shall be a virgin when she marries and if she isn't, she is to be stoned to death" Is this florist also checking for hymens and stockpiling rocks just in case (though in this day and age surely there wouldn't be?!!!) a bride to be comes in who is not 'intact'?!
    I am also assuming that she therefore on the same grounds re:virginity refuses to offer her services to straight couples who are getting remarried?....


    No? really? You amaze me.....

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  15. This has nothing to do with her belief or her standing up for her religion! Weak willed and scared people hide behind their religion all the time in an attempt to justify their hate and fear, yet somehow using the excuse of a God who's supposed to be all powerful and loving?! Christians of all flavors pick and choose which parts of the Bible they'd prefer to follow, and people all around choose what meaning they see from certain passages. Those women deserved to have their day, their celebration of love unscathed and untarnished, yet Kim Evans managed to ruin it with her narrow minded views. If your christian god exists, which I do not claim to know to any degree of certainty, then he'd be ashamed of such an action or of such support of that action. Fear and hate are the devil's mark, for all of you holier than thou individuals.

    Love is louder...

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  16. K Evans
    (506) 204-4250
    134 Patricia Dr
    Riverview, NB E1B 5C9

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  17. 39 Glen Forest Drive, Riverview, New Brunswick, E1B 4X3

    http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=712546#post712546

    According to American Baptists, Canada was in fact SAVED from God's wrath today because of Kim's actions. Apparently, God is angry at Canada and to show his anger, he sent an earthquake to Montreal. BUT! When God heard about what Kim did, he decided to spare Canada. Phew!

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  18. paul rushton,oxford,n.s..March 17, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    thanks kim,we support you fully.my god,in this day and age,we don,t have the right to express our beliefs???
    i am not a christian, ,in no way do i see kim bashing or promoting hatred toward any group,she is merely expressing her rights or do straight people not have any?? sometimes i wonder !!
    i personally do not agree to gay male rights,and would like to see them,
    back in the closet, { if they have to exhist at all } i would gladly cement up the doorway....
    i also don,t appreciate,comments that are anonymous,where,s your balls????

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    1. you are one sick hypocritical red neck

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  19. Kim Evans,
    How totally unchristian of you. How dare you judge yourself to be better than other's in God's name. Shame on you! Do not call yourself a Christian or hide your prejudicial life behind religion. Shame shame shame!!!
    Birgit

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  20. What is the point of posting her phone number and address?

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  21. I'm in support of Kim.

    How many times have I read that "Born-Again Christians" are the problem. Christian this, Christian that... sounds to me like Christians are the ones being discriminated against.

    And if your comparing the KKK to Christianity you're a complete dough-head. That's like me saying, ok, gays are like pedophiles - Obviously there's a difference!!! Biblically it does state that it is a sin.
    If she was absolutely rude about it then, that's a different matter, but it seems to me, that Kim was being quite polite considering the circumstance. Hey, go ask a muslim flower shop, and see what they'd do.

    Stop bashing Christians.

    Matt

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  22. I'm very proud of the wedding planner for exposing this. For too long, as in thousands of years, Christians have used their religious lifestyle as an excuse to bash, discriminate and oppress, and as an excuse for their personal bigotries. (The Bible also says not to eat shrimp, that the Flintstones are a historical documentary, and that Christians should give away all that they own to the poor: oddly, most Christians have no difficulty explaining those bits away, especially the last one.) Whatever someone's religion, Buddhist, flying Spaghetti Monster, or Muslim, we can't let it interfere in the workings of an evolved, civil society. I trust that the florist will be prosecuted under the law and face an appropriate monetary judgment against her.

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  23. Randal,

    Your comments amount to the same discriminating bigotry that your posting is supposedly criticizing. Calling a religious person a bigot? Flying spaghetti monster? And you think that you belong to an evolved, civil society? That's funny. How hypocritical.

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  24. If you want to use your religion as a measuring stick, then start a church instead of a public business. There's no glory in embarrassing an entire faith while at the same time ignoring the Golden Rule.

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  25. You're trying to say that a religious person shouldn't have the right to follow their beliefs and practice their faith while operating a business? Nobody is forcing anyone to shop at a place of business.

    She is not embarassing an entire faith, she is standing up for her beliefs just like anyone has the so-called "right" to do.

    Most people do not understand that as a practicing religious person, you cannot "turn off" your beliefs like you would turn off a light switch.

    Maybe the solution to this problem is for her to put up a "warning" sign in her business to warn people who find Christianity to be offensive so that they can find a secular place of business instead.

    If I know that a business is gay-friendly, I just choose not to spend my money there. If I know that a business contains adult material, I just don't go in there. Same thing here. If someone is offended by religion, they can choose not to go to that store. Don't we have the freedom to choose where we shop?

    There needs to be a middle ground to allow a business owner to run their business according to their wishes.

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  26. Funny, I thought Canada was still a "Free Country". A business owner says she does not want someone else's money is totally within her right to do so. Who are you to say she has to? It is also funny that freedom of religion is only free when YOU agree with it. The same goes for free speech. It is only Free if you agree with it. I am tired of all you people who call Christians hypocritical when you do the same.

    I don't see this as Kim judging anyone at all. She has a right to refuse service to anyone she sees fit, just the same as any business owner.

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  27. I live in Riverview, and I can tell you she does NOT speak for anyone I know. Why on earth would anyone in this day and age discriminate against a gay couple. This is CANADA! Not Iraq.

    I am really amazed how many 'christians' rush to her defense quoting an old storybook to prove that being gay is wrong. A lifestyle choice? Really? Honestly? Someone is still THAT ignorant? Amazing. It's a sad comment on society when someone could hurt other people so deeply based on silly superstitions. My heart goes out to this couple and I wish them all the happiness in the world. As for Kim Evans, I hope she gets exactly what she deserves. If there is some magical deity, he wont be very happy with her for being a hateful, hurtful representative for his cult.

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  28. As for the previous comment, you can call religion a silly superstition and a cult and expect others to respect your beliefs? Are you really that ignorant?

    You are amazed at discrimination but you do the same? Hypocrite!

    As for being gay being a lifestyle choice? I know of more and a few 'gays' that grew up straight and turned 'gay'. They even developed the lisp to go along with it. How can that not be a choice?

    Wow!

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  29. Wow. I'm not sure there's much to be said after the Christian who won't go into a store that sells 'adult material'. They must have an incredible time avoiding prophylactic vending pharmacies. They must have difficulty buying groceries in a store that sells shellfish. (Leviticus 11:9-12, Deuteronomy 14:9-10)
    What Christian dares to deny the Golden Rule? What Christian throws stones? What Christian denies his neighbour fair treatment?
    Irrelevant of your beliefs this woman has chosen to violate human rights, and you can be MOST CERTAIN that had it been the other way around we'd be in the same place. Take pride in your Country and her laws, fill your life with love, not judgement. Business is not governed by the laws of religion, but rather those of the people. One incident can, and should make a difference. Thank you for the members on both sides of this issue for attempting a discourse and fueling the fire of equality; passion leads to change.

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  30. If this gay couple are so righteous, then why wouldn't they just turn the other cheek?

    As for the comment in the previous posting about adult material, I think what was meant was adult stores. No need to make dumbass comments.

    Non-Christians are quick to quote scripture to use against Christians, but they fail to believe the part about homosexuality being a perverse sin.

    Believe it all as truth or believe it at all.

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  31. Ah, but the business owner is governed by their religious beliefs. So, what you're saying is that the religious person should either check their religion at the door or not be in business. That my friends is denial or religious freedoms.

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  32. A question for the hardcore christians... since denying business for this couple is against the law (the new brunswick human rights act), is that how normal christians act? I mean breaking laws that is. Because I was always of the belief that Christians were generally law-abiding good citizens. since breaking the law apparantly is okay, i think I will revise my opinions of this religion. Though I shouldnt have been so surprised, since the history of christianity has been all about descrimination and forced conversion. (i am pagan...the religion christianity attempted to convert violently and brutally...)

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  33. Tell me where it is against the law to not do business with someone/anyone. I recall seeing signs "No shirt, No shoes, No service". I walk into a store with no shoes and they deny me business they are breaking the law??? Give me a break.

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  34. "Born again" Christians are discriminated against everyday, but does anyone care? You can mention any name: Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed---but don't say the name of Jesus, or else everyone gets offended. :s

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  35. Terri in SaskatchewanMarch 18, 2011 at 5:44 AM

    Once again religion is being used as a rally call to pit people against each other. It's a story as old as time, where what "story", ie. religion, you believe defines you. Why do people who believe these fairy tales have to shove their fairy tales down other peoples' throats? So what if you're born again? Just sell your damn flowers! What's sad is this started out as a story of love between two people, and this stupid lunatic has tainted what is supposed to be a very special time in their lives with hatred and judgement. Shame on you for that Kim. So sad this has happened in Canada - I thought we were better than that.

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  36. In the words of my 86 year old Christian grandmother: "God loves all his children". SHE is a true Christian who shows no intollerance or prejudice towards anyone! The rest of you so called "Christians" could learn a thing or two from her!

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  37. 1 Corinthians 2:14

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  38. This woman has the right to refuse to sell them to homosexuals and lesbians. Its her freedom of conscience. Time for homosexuals to go back into the closet. Most Canadians support her and that should be known, even if a bunch of radical homos start pestering her at her door tomorrow.

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  39. to the one who said Christians used to be or are thought of as law abiding citizens. The Bible teaches that we are to obey man's law as long as it does'nt contradict God's law. In this case, God's law clearly overrules. Good on Ms Evans.

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  40. Good for you Kim!
    Congratulations on being the only person with balls in this ordeal!
    How about letting Kim practice the freedom of her religion and the couple can practice their's.
    Peaceful protest--as if!
    I will begin to support Petals and Promises from this day on!

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  41. We must organize a legal demonstration complete with a permit ,so that as many people as possible can picket her establishment until it is permenantly closed.The RCMP must now file discrimination charges against her.We'll soon see what her god does for her then.

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  42. Time for the RCMP to file charges against homosexual anti-christian hate groups.

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  43. I find it interesting how people all the time, when they have a particular lifestyle, that is condemned by the bible, pick verses here and there to suit their needs (Jesus loves everyone). But when something like this happens, they all are offended. Could it be that their conscience could be picked? How about someone quoting a few verses on the wrath of God toward sin or ungodliness. Or His judgment to come to people that wanted "their" own lives the way "they" wanted it. Whether people accept it or not, the last comment about homosexual anti-christian hate is no doubt stronger than christian homosexual hate.
    Being a born again christian, I could never see myself having hate toward those individuals. However, I do NOT approve their lifestyle. Good on you Kim...you will have my business from now on!!!!

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  44. homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia = all the same

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  45. http://longroadtravelled.blogspot.com/

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  46. Moncton militant homosexuals harass at the home of Kim Evans of Petals and Promises Wedding Flowers in Riverview, NB: http://metromonctonnews.com/?p=1856

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  47. Wow. Well, I have no clue how all you people found my blog, but thanks for reading. I appreciate all of your comments, whether I agree with them or not. Some of the more intensely homophobic ones I most definitely disagree with, of course.

    Just a few thoughts. I would say that free speech has worked pretty well here. She made her feelings known, I made my feelings known, you've all made your feelings known, and none of us are in jail. I didn't call for a boycott, I didn't call for legal measures to be used against her, I just expressed my outrage and extreme disappointment in her actions and approach to fellow human beings.

    Secondly, this "Born Again" Christian stuff confuses me. Would she have done the flowers before she was "Born Again"? Would she do flowers for a bride who had had an abortion? Would she do the flowers for a mixed race couple? Would she have done the flowers for a Muslim couple? Why are a same sex couple singled out? It makes no sense to me.

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  48. What if it were a satanic wedding? Would they be the outcry if she refused? Funny how we give the religions of the world all the courtesy and space needed to observe their brand of faith. Consider two muslim women getting married???? I think not! The world has all kinds of "tolerance" for all the idiosyncrasies of other faiths but when it comes to Christ....its time to get the boots out! Kim you will recieve a crown in heaven for your stand.. I for one will support your shop ....not out of hate for anyone but for the love given us by God!

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